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Edge AI Foundation at Sensors Converge 2026 (with Pete Bernard)

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I had a great time hanging out with Pete Bernard, CEO of EDGE AI FOUNDATION at Sensors Converge 2026 which took place at the Santa Clara Convention Center this week. We had a chance to chat about the key trends that we see shaping what I've been calling the Perception Edge. What is it?

Simple. Sensors + Edge AI. Check out our brief conversation where we touch on the implications of this convergence of sensor technology with edge AI, the possibilities created, and the critical mindset shifts we need to make to appreciate and capitalize on the change and opportunity that is coming at the Perception Edge.

Leonard Lee

Hey, everyone. This is Leonard Lee, executive analyst at Next Curve, and I am here at Sensors Converge- Yes in Santa Clara, California. This is, like, I think the 41st- 41st edition of this event. It started

Peter Bernard

in, 1893, I think.

Leonard Lee

See, I think so. I think so. And I'm here with my good buddy-

Peter Bernard

There you go

Leonard Lee

Pete Bernard, who is the CEO of the biggest-

Peter Bernard

Hmm

Leonard Lee

biggest tech theme and potential hype that has- Hype ever cruised through- the Santa Clara Convention Center, and that is...

Peter Bernard

Edge AI.

Leonard Lee

Edge AI. AI, AI, AI. And he... Yeah. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh, Pete is the CEO of the Edge AI, AI Foundation- Yes which is, like, going gangbusters, right?

Peter Bernard

Yeah, it's been great.

Leonard Lee

Yeah.

Peter Bernard

It's been

Leonard Lee

great. It's pretty amazing.

Peter Bernard

It's been a great show. Yeah. It's my first time actually at the show. We were here last year as a community, and this year we have lots of new partners here and, a lot of good traffic. We got Murata here, TDK- Yep STMicro, Microchip, plus we've got this pavilion of partners. And yeah, Edge AI is obviously a theme, yeah. It's a theme. A

Leonard Lee

theme.

Peter Bernard

Sensors, the s- the sensor edge-

Leonard Lee

Yeah, yeah

Peter Bernard

is a big deal, and what you do with, applying AI and Edge AI to the sensor data- Exactly people are doing some pretty cool things.

Leonard Lee

Yeah, and stuff above it as well, right? Sure. It's not just- Sure it's, I think- When you talk about edge AI, which, from my observation at this conference and other conferences is still a squishy thing. Mm-hmm. It's kinda like edge computing. People after all these years- Yeah, it's, uh- are still wondering what edge computing is. It's an

Peter Bernard

inclusive term. We call it an inclusive term. Yeah,

Leonard Lee

inclusive. But y- to your point, it's a concept. Yes. It's an idea. It's an approach. And, I think it's just fundamentally a counterpoint to, that prevailing n- narrative of cloud computing, everything going to the cloud, right? Now we're talking about things actually moving much closer to the sensor itself. And then the sensor itself becoming more cognitive than- Right, right it was in the past.

Peter Bernard

Yeah, the idea is,, put the AI workload as close to where the data's created as possible- Right so that you get the lowest latency, lowest cost, maximum impact-

Leonard Lee

Yeah

Peter Bernard

and easier deployments. Yeah. And so we're seeing, like, uh, like, machine learning being applied to sensors to extract more signal out of the noise, which is pretty cool. Yeah. So they're getting- Yeah a lot more sophisticated. And then, uh, more applied almost like, small language models being applied to that sensor data to get more context-

Leonard Lee

Yeah, exactly about what's going

Peter Bernard

on. Exactly. So you're seeing, levels of AI being applied-

Leonard Lee

Yeah

Peter Bernard

to the sensor edge. And like you said, it all ladders up to some pretty cool-

Leonard Lee

Right, right

Peter Bernard

solutions. Yeah.

Leonard Lee

So yeah. Yeah, so coming out of this conference, I coined this thing. Actually, we've been talking about it on IoT Coffee Talk for quite some time- Mm which is the perception

Peter Bernard

edge. The Turing test? Oh,

Leonard Lee

the perception edge. Oh, no, that too, the Turing test. We did invent a new Turing test. There you go. So if you guys are wondering what that is- Go look

Peter Bernard

on YouTube

Leonard Lee

yeah, it has something to do with methane. Um, human-generated methane.

Peter Bernard

There you go.

Leonard Lee

And, yeah, and intelligent, cognitive sensor- Yes detection of-

Peter Bernard

All that good stuff

Leonard Lee

such... Yeah. Um, human-generated-

Peter Bernard

But yeah, perception edge-

Leonard Lee

Yeah

Peter Bernard

is a good way to describe- Yeah what's happening in this space.

Leonard Lee

Right.

Peter Bernard

Right?

Leonard Lee

Right. Yeah.

Peter Bernard

It's not just about measuring- You know, so traditional sensors are like, you detect something and you- Yeah when you reach a limit it goes bing or whatever.

Leonard Lee

Yeah, exactly.

Peter Bernard

And but now it's really how do you perceive what's happening in the real world?

Leonard Lee

Right, right. Right. Right. And-

Peter Bernard

Which is tough

Leonard Lee

and so, Karthik, from Apple- Yeah his, uh, last name escapes me, so Karthik, don't kill me for forgetting your last name, but he's one of the board members of, Sensors Converge. I think he put it really well. It's taking things from just sensing-

Peter Bernard

Mm

Leonard Lee

toward understanding. Right. So understanding what's happening at the periphery of your intelligence system.

Peter Bernard

Yeah,

Leonard Lee

yeah, yeah. Right? And, and, and so going from sensing to perception, right, and then infusing that cognitive element to it. And so what you guy- uh, like a lot of your partners here- Yes and we have, your friends from EnaTerra- EnaTerra's here and Brain Chip- Brain Chip and EMASS and- Seba, EMASS, all these guys are working on, technologies, in particular silicon- Right and, devices that Enable that, cognitive evolution of the sensor- Right, understanding the sensory system.

Peter Bernard

Yeah, and that means you can take action on that understanding faster.

Leonard Lee

Yeah, yeah.

Peter Bernard

Right? Because you're at the edge, you're not sending it to the cloud, and then the cloud's like, "Oh, hey, there's gonna be an explosion," you know? Like- Yeah now you can actually, take action a little sooner.

Leonard Lee

Exactly. Uh- Exactly, and so this is where all the connectivity folks need to really pay attention. Mm. Because there's this assumption that the AI is gonna cause an explosion of traffic, and I know that there's gonna be a lot of people who don't like what I say right now- Right but that may not be the case. The whole point of edge AI may be actually to reduce the amount of data that's being- Yeah raw data, really, what it is- Raw

data

Leonard Lee

boiled down

Peter Bernard

to. Definitely raw data. Right. You're not sending, video feeds up to the cloud to analyze them, for sure. Yeah. But I would say it's like mitigation, mitigating communication risk-

Leonard Lee

Yeah

Peter Bernard

in deployment is what people are interested in.

Leonard Lee

Yeah.

Peter Bernard

And that simplifies deployment, it reduces the cost- Yeah and therefore you proliferate solutions- Yeah a little faster-

Leonard Lee

Yeah

Peter Bernard

uh, if you don't have as much complexity in communication. But yeah- Yeah I mean, it's... As you can process more data, it's more like using comms for the metadata-

Leonard Lee

Yeah, yeah

Peter Bernard

as per the actual data, which is, you know-

Leonard Lee

Right, yeah it's

Peter Bernard

good. Which means you can actually do, use, like, LoRaWAN, you can use all kinds of, low bandwidth communication- Mm as opposed to high bandwidth communication.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. And I think it, it's the data traffic and volumes that, uh, don't become the key drivers of what is gonna be required in the future. It's going to be other aspects that- Yeah you have to really look at. But then that's where you r- have to follow what's happening with edge AI-

Peter Bernard

Yeah, yeah

Leonard Lee

and, uh, sensor technologies and how things are evolving at the- Right

Peter Bernard

perception edge. Yeah, and it's a different, Perception edge perception edge. TM. The, You heard it here first.

Leonard Lee

Yes.

Peter Bernard

But it's, you know- Literally it's interesting flip from IoT. So in the IoT days- Yeah we had sensors and other things sending data to the cloud.

Leonard Lee

Right.

Peter Bernard

Connectivity, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And then pr- now we're like, actually- Yeah with edge AI you can actually do a lot of processing locally. Exactly. You can mitigate the risk, mitigate the cost.

Leonard Lee

Yeah.

Peter Bernard

Get faster, cheaper deployments. So I think that's gonna help- Yeah the whole IoT space, as it were.

Leonard Lee

Yeah, exactly.

Peter Bernard

The edge space.

Leonard Lee

Well, I think it's gonna flip it because what you're talking about is sending data up. Now when you look at what's happening with perception at the edge enabled by, multimodal, by the way, multimodal sensors-

Peter Bernard

Yes, multimodal sensors

Leonard Lee

or fused sensors, plus, multimodal, AI- you transcend data. You're not dealing with data anymore, you're dealing with higher orders of information. Right. So it's context. Yes. So metadata provides context, but then at some point it's just gonna be understanding.

Peter Bernard

Yes.

Leonard Lee

Right? So those signals are different. The way... The... What you're dealing with in terms of information is different. Yes. It's no longer... You're moving away from raw data- Right is really basically what it boils down to. And, that's still, I think, in tr- talk track around edge AI, that shift hasn't ma- Because everyone keeps talking about data, and- Yes You're not dealing with data anymore.

Peter Bernard

Not as much. Yes. Yeah. And actually, your point on multimodal sensors is interesting, 'cause we're getting closer to, the digital nose, right? Yeah. Where it's like people are using AI on the sensor signals to extract, what's actually being sensed.

Leonard Lee

Yeah.

Peter Bernard

So that's pretty cool. Going back to our methane comment,

Leonard Lee

that's a cool thing. Wow, yeah, the Turing, Turing

Peter Bernard

test. Turing test, yeah.

Leonard Lee

Turing 2.0.

Peter Bernard

Uh, and also we're seeing, like- For physical AI doing, vision without cameras, audio without microphones, right? Yeah. So you're analyzing radio waves and ultra-wideband and things to detect presence in a room and how many people are in there and stuff like that. Yeah. No cameras, so but you can use these... You're doing AI vision without cameras- Yeah and things like that. That's pretty cool, and we're seeing a lot of that here too.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. Yeah. In a way, these are becoming superpowers. They're like, like Marvel-

Peter Bernard

Like Superman, like the X-ray specs

Leonard Lee

Exactly, X-ray vision- Yes and all these other cr- crazy things. Maybe

Peter Bernard

that'd be good. It's, the smart glasses. Yeah. I would like them to be X-ray specs.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. Uh, I don't know.

Peter Bernard

Like, uh, we'll have the- I

Leonard Lee

think we would have a- the comic books ambient, as, Karthik calls it. An a- ambient privacy issue. So, hey, look that up. That is true. Ambient privacy.

Peter Bernard

That is true.

Leonard Lee

So there's a lot of things to think about here as we look forward to the future of, uh- Yeah the perception edge and the role that edge AI plays enabling that, and how all this, sensor innovation, i- is go- are... these things are gonna come together and- Mm-hmm Shape the new possibilities for intelligent systems, right? Yeah, for sure. More cognitive systems.

Peter Bernard

Sure. Um- And this place, even though it's 41 years in the making, this show is very relevant. There's a lot of new stuff here, so which is pretty cool.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm... You know what? I, I'm really glad, being a board member of, the, Sensors Converge, event here-

Peter Bernard

Mm

Leonard Lee

I've- I was excited to see that you guys were-

Peter Bernard

Yeah

Leonard Lee

making a presence here, and then, looking forward to-

Peter Bernard

Next year

Leonard Lee

seeing you guys deepen your presence, and then maybe do some of that converge stuff, right? Converge. The sensor converge with Edge AI to get to cognitive sensing and, uh-

Peter Bernard

There you go.

Leonard Lee

Yeah, cool stuff. So- Good anyways, hey, Pete. Good

Peter Bernard

to see you again.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. As

Peter Bernard

always.

Leonard Lee

Always, always. A pleasure. Yeah, and so, thanks for tuning in.

Peter Bernard

Yeah. Check out our YouTube channel for if you're really into the Edge AI videos. We have a new video every day there, the YouTube channel, Edge AI Foundation, or edgeaifoundation.org, of course, which is, the center of all Edge AI things-

Leonard Lee

Yes

Peter Bernard

to go to and learn about things, so-

Leonard Lee

Yes kinda cool. And then, you can also, get a taste of the metaverse and what it could have been, right? With all your content, you guys do a lot of the- Yes nano banana.

Peter Bernard

Nano bananas. Nano

Leonard Lee

banana stuff.

Peter Bernard

We're into nano

Leonard Lee

bananas. Yeah, yeah. No, it's really great. And then, remember, yeah, definitely, get involved into Edge AI Foundation. Great content, great focus, whether they know it or not, great focus on practitioners. They bring a lot of- Practitioners researchers in, but it's all about how do we now convert some of the-

Peter Bernard

Yes

Leonard Lee

research-level stuff, pre-commercialization stuff into solutions. Yeah. And so it's- I

Peter Bernard

would say also, too, speaking of practitioners, if you are in the European theater- Yeah as they say, in London, June 8th and 9th, we have some, we have Edge AI London 2026 going on, and we have workshop. We- we're world's first Ventuno Q workshop going on there- Ah, yes with this incredible NXP workshop with, their new A240 and, and talks from, the president of Avnet Europe is gonna do a keynote. Okay.

Leonard Lee

Now he's bragging.

Peter Bernard

I'm doing... Yeah, it's all this stuff. Max Versace- Yeah from Analog Devices. So- Yeah if you're in the London, Europe area and are into the Edge AI scene, and you wanna really soak in it for a couple of days- Yeah Edge AI London will be the place to be June 8th and 9th.

Leonard Lee

Yeah. And, next year, make sure if you haven't, ever attended Sensors Converge, make sure that you attend-

Peter Bernard

Yeah

Leonard Lee

next year. Physical AI obviously is gonna be a big topic, and the grounding is here. It starts with the sensors. And so- Yeah you wanna... you'll want to pay attention, and it's all about the perception edge going into 2027. So, uh- For sure and, these guys are at the epicenter of all that, Sensors Converge and, Edge AI Foundation. So we'll see you next year.

Peter Bernard

Sounds good. Bye-bye.

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